BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA 1890 SS NUMBER TRACED TO DEAD MAN IN HI

[D. Stussy]

BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA
1890 SS NUMBER TRACED TO JOHN PAUL LUDWIG
This news is breaking: This is bad news for Obama.
This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul
Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and
died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and
records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around
1981.

Here's the California record:

Last Name First Name Middle Birth Date Mother Maiden Father Last Sex Birth
Place Death Place Residence Death Date SSN Age
LUDWIG JEAN PAUL 02/17/1890 SALOME - M REST (OTHER) SAN LUIS
BISPO - 06/19/1981 045-26-8722 91 yrs

It also appears that he travelled to France, having arrived multiple times
in NYC, and twice in England. All records indicate an age implying a 1890
+/-1 birth year. Data from ancestry.com:

Departure: Rangoon, Burma
Arrival: 24 Jul 1923 - Southampton, England

1) Departure: Cherbourg, France
Arrival: 12 Aug 1924 - New York, New York

2) Departure: Cherbourg, France
Arrival: 26 Sep 1927 - New York, New York

Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival: 17 Jan 1930 - Plymouth, England

3) Departure: Cherbourg, France
Arrival: 6 May 1930 - New York, New York

There's also a record of him naturalizing while living in Pennsylvania.

Now show us the Hawaiian record....

SSDI has this for a Hawaiian dying Jean Ludwig:
LUDWIG, JEAN 17 Feb 1890 Jun 1981 91 96816 (Honolulu, Honolulu, HI) 96816
(Honolulu, Honolulu, HI) Connecticut 045-26-8722

Note that the SSN is not the same as Obama's. However, it is the same as
for the California death record, as are the birthdates and death dates.

If Mr. Ludwig used 042-68-4425, it must be coming from a different database
than the ones I used to provide the above information.

The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact
pattern to Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White
House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and
around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul
Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose
death was either never reported to the SS administration or
reported and deleted from the database by someone.

The fact that Obama has a Connecticut-issued SSN is still a valid question,
as he never lived nor worked there. The fact that SSA says the number was
NEVER issued is also important.

Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-
timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii
Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of
anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from
CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma
Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to
steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family
worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit
was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died.
Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama
could "adopt" it as his own. This is a clear case of identity
theft at the federal level.

Motive, means, and opportunity are important but not conclusive. This
establishes probable cause to investigate; nothing more.

In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in
Washington DC.
On the ship manifest of 'Leviathan', he listed Senator Reed in
Washington, DC as his empl., in answer to where he intended to
live in the US.
Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he
was listed on the "Immigration" manifest and refered to as an
alien in the column headings.
Listed under "States Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival",
Jean Paul Ludwig, Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924, Port of
Cherbourg, France, Line#: 0008

I was able to confirm arrival, but not certain if my source is independent.

Line #8: By Whom was Passage Paid: Emp. Mr. Reed; Whether in
possession of $50: Yes; Whether ever before in US: Yes; If Yes-
Period of Years: 3; Where: PA
Whether going to join relative or friend: Empl. Senator Reed,
Washingto, DC
Length of time alien intends to remain in the US: Always
Height 5′5″, Complexion Dk., Hair Br., Eyes Br.,
Marks of ID: None
Place of Birth: France, Ammersville.
[link to www.ellisisland.org]
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/ship_passengers.asp?letter=l&h
alf=1&sname=Leviathan&year=1924&sdate=08%2F12%2F1924&port=Cherbo
urg%2C+France&page=8
First Name: Jean P.
Last Name: Ludwig
Ethnicity: France
Last Place of Residence: Washington, D.C.
Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924
Age at Arrival: 34 Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Leviathan
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0008
U.S. Social Security Death Index
Name: Jean Ludwig
Birth Date: 17 February 1890
Zip Code of Last Residence: 96816 (Honolulu,HI)
Death Date: June 1981
Estimated Age at Death: 91
Last edited by Apuzzo; 03-14-2011 at 05:41 PM.
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1890 SS NUMBER TRACED TO JOHN PAUL LUDWIG
This news is breaking: This is bad news for Obama.
This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul
Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and
died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and
records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around
1981.

SSN's are recycled.

Note that the SSN is not the same as Obama's.

'Nuff said.

The fact that Obama has a Connecticut-issued SSN is still a valid
question, as he never lived nor worked there. The fact that SSA
says the number was NEVER issued is also important.

Do you REALLY think you have his ACTUAL SSN? Ever hear of IDENTITY THEFT?
Don't you think the Secret Service would do everything in
their power to hide his actual number?

Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-
timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii
Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of
anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from
CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma
Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to
steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family
worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit
was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died.

So granny knew he'd one day be President of The United States,
and thought it'd be a good idea to hide his identity?

Motive, means, and opportunity are important but not conclusive.
This establishes probable cause to investigate; nothing more.

The only investigation this would lead to is the OP's sanity.